In response to community concerns over climate change, the Prime Minister set up a Task Group on Emissions Trading in December 2006, to report by end-May 2007. Its Terms of Reference state:
‘Australia enjoys major competitive advantages through the possession of large reserves of fossil fuels and uranium. In assessing Australia’s further contribution to reducing greenhouse gas emissions, these advantages must be preserved.
Against this background the Task Group will be asked to advise on the nature and design of a workable global emissions trading system in which Australia would be able to participate. The Task Group will advise and report on additional steps that might be taken, in Australia, consistent with the goal of establishing such a system.’
In the circumstances we now face, these requirements are dangerously anachronistic:
The Task Group Issues Paper released in early 2007 ignored the substantial body of knowledge on climate change and emissions trading built up over the last two decades in Australia. This paper might have been appropriate as a primer in the early-1990s, but to put it forward today as a serious contribution on this critical issue, suggests that the Federal Government either does not understand, or does not want to understand the seriousness of the challenge we face, and is intent on delaying effective action yet again.
Having crossed the threshold from denying to accepting that climate change is a serious issue, which the government now claims to have done, sensible policy becomes mandatory. Time is of the essence, for the longer it takes to implement solutions, the harder they become, particularly given growing evidence of non-linear climatic responses to increasing CO2 concentrations and rapidly accelerating emissions both here and overseas.
Current piecemeal initiatives are totally inadequate. Emissions trading is now, reluctantly, under discussion but it is only one component of the comprehensive policy required.
While the Federal Government has no coherent policy, I do not believe that the ALP really understand the extent, and urgency, of the challenge we face. Only the Greens are coming anywhere near it, as demonstrated by the Re-Energising Australia policy paper released by Christine Milne in April.
So what constitutes sensible climate change policy? It would look something like this:
There must be rapid implementation of measures to stabilise atmospheric carbon concentrations by reducing emissions substantially. This requires clear, binding, deliverable targets to be agreed globally and nationally, best achieved by committing to a modified Kyoto Protocol in the immediate future:
About Tradeable Energy Quotas |
| Also known as ‘carbon rations’ or ‘personal carbon allowances’, TEQs are an electronic system for rationing energy, which includes every energy-user and energy-provider in a national economy in the task of reducing carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere from fossil-fuel energy. |
| TEQs are defined in terms of carbon units, that is one kilogram of carbon dioxide, representing the carbon emissions produced by use of the energy itself, plus the combustion of the other fuels that were used in its extraction, refining, generation and transport. All energy and fuel carry carbon rating in this way. Other greenhouse gases such as nitrous oxide and methane, are rated in CO2 equivalents – the number of kilograms of CO2 that produce the same global warming effect. |
| At the outset, a TEQ Registry is established. This is a computer database which holds individual carbon accounts for all participants in the scheme, similar to credit-card accounts. The number of TEQ units issued and credited to these accounts initially is set equal to emission levels from current energy use, derived from the national budget for that year. The number on issue will then be reduced year–by-year in line with the national budget. |
| To allocate the TEQ units, the proportion of energy consumed directly by households, for example fuel and electricity, is first assessed. TEQ units representing this share of all emissions are then issued free to all adults on an equal per capita basis. The remaining share would be issued through a tender process to all other users – companies, small businesses, government etc. |
| When energy-users make purchases of energy or fuel, they surrender units, drawing on their TEQ account. There is embodied energy in every good and service we buy, and all uses of energy are covered by TEQs. Thus no consumer purchase is excluded from the scheme. |
| When any purchaser no longer has TEQ units in their account, units have to be purchased on the market. If you use less than your quota of units, you can sell the surplus. If you need more, you buy them. Thus a market price for carbon is established which depends on the success of the community at large in reducing emissions. |
| Every week an additional number of units is issued and allocated, equivalent to one week’s supply, so that at any time there is full year’s supply in circulation. The scheme can be largely automated using existing financial services infrastructure. |
| The process is overseen by an Emissions Policy Committee, with a mandate to achieve the national carbon budget determined by the Contraction and Convergence process. It operates at arms length from government, much in the way the Reserve Bank sets interest rates. |
| The government is itself bound by the scheme. Its role is to live within it and assist the rest of the community to do likewise with appropriate directional policies. The scheme is thus insulated from the political process, and the government is relieved of the political need to defend the emissions reduction budget. |
| TEQs are quantity-driven, ensuring that emission reduction targets are met. The price of units, and thus carbon, is ultimately under the control of the community, since the faster we are able to reduce emissions, the lower the price. A common purpose is created as everyone has an incentive to reduce emissions and to encourage others to do likewise. Thus the process becomes a positive, collective experience for the community to restructure and rebuild the economy on sustainable principles |
Directional incentives are essential to speed the transition to a low-carbon economy and to capitalise on new business opportunities. For example we need to:
Fossil Fuel Exports are a substantial source of carbon leakage from the global carbon emission reduction effort unless the recipient country is part of the global reduction program.
There may well be justification for higher quality Australian coal, for example, to be used for power generation in preference to poorer quality coal in other countries. However, without carbon being fully priced, there will be substantial distortion of the future energy market if carbon-intensive projects become locked into the energy mix before global negotiations are completed.
The Australian coal industry has belatedly acknowledged that clean coal technology and carbon sequestration is essential if coal combustion is to continue. However, despite the industry having been on notice for more than 15 years, the R&D investment devoted to this task is miniscule compared with the challenge ahead. Further, whilst carbon sequestration may work in specific circumstances, it is by no means clear that it will be generally applicable or that timely solutions will be available.
Accordingly, no further fossil-fuel export projects should be approved until either all exported carbon can be securely sequestered on a long-term basis, or it is accounted for in the importing country by global carbon reduction agreements. This will ensure that investment decisions are not distorted, and spur technological and diplomatic innovation.
At present airlines are not included in emissions trading systems. Airlines account for around 3% of global emissions, although this may be an underestimate as some types of emission may be particularly damaging, the total impact being perhaps 2-4 times as great. Airline emissions are growing rapidly, spurred by cheap air travel and increasing wealth, and will become a much more significant component of overall emissions. Accordingly aviation must be included in the global and national emission reduction programs. International sea-freight is also not included in current emission trading schemes and must be incorporated.
International emissions trading will be essential to achieve the optimal, least cost emission reduction strategies. This should be provided for by nation-to-nation emissions trading under the auspices of the modified Kyoto Protocol. It would allow nations with quotas in excess of their needs, as determined under contraction and convergence, to sell to those requiring additional quotas, in the process easing global inequity by transferring wealth from the developed to the developing world. Technology transfers from the developed to the developing world, to achieve low-carbon outcomes, must also be part of the process.
There remains the possibility that the science is wrong and that climate change currently being experienced is primarily due to natural causes rather than being human-induced. The mounting evidence suggests that the probability of this is low, and declining. Nonetheless, in committing to the policy proposed, this scenario should be kept in mind. Prudent risk assessment, weighing the risks and their probabilities in the light of today’s knowledge, suggests that it clearly makes sense to proceed with these proposals, as the potential impact of dangerous climate change may be catastrophic, while the costs of carbon emission reduction are manageable. To continue with business-as-usual implies an irreversible increase in global atmospheric carbon concentrations, which would be foolhardy in the light of the evidence available. But the risk assessment must be kept under review as the scientific evidence evolves.
Whilst policy should endeavour to minimise costs and smooth the transition to a low-carbon economy equitably, there will undoubtedly be pain, but the pain of not taking action will be considerably greater.
In these circumstances, it is not possible to maintain industry competitiveness and economic growth as currently constituted. Conventional growth is a large part of the problem. We must move to a new paradigm of a sustainable economy, which requires major structural changes, as well as a shift in values.
But whilst some industries decline, greater opportunities open up. It is essential to take a proactive, forward looking view and seize these sustainable opportunities, rather than reactively defend an unsustainable status quo: the former represent the future of Australia, whereas the latter guarantees our decline and immeasurable community hardship. Rather than a problem, as currently presented, it is a unique opportunity to set humanity on a new course, built on sustainable principles.
The transition will only be achieved if there is strong leadership and a whole-hearted commitment to achieving these objectives. To build this commitment will require extensive community awareness programs.
Above all, visionary, principled, long-term leadership is needed from government, the community and business. Short-term political or corporate expediency is no longer acceptable. Bi-partisan cooperation is essential, for this will not be solved with conventional party politics. Many will argue that conventional politics is all we should expect. I suggest that after another natural disaster or two, the community will demand much, much more.
Current atmospheric carbon concentrations are 430ppm CO2e, increasing at 2ppm per annum. That leaves 10 years before we reach the danger point of 450ppm. As there is a considerable lag before any reduction in emissions has an impact, action is required in the next 6-12 months, not in the 3-5 years favoured in political debate.
Climate change is the most serious issue to confront humanity in centuries. It is of an entirely different dimension to the issues which typically dominate the political and corporate agenda. As such, it must be addressed with honesty and urgency, not with the denial and misrepresentation that continues to epitomise the debate.
Based on today’s criteria of economic success, defined by short-term myopia and profit performance, Australia is doing splendidly and may continue to do so a while. But on any sustainable basis, without rapid corrective action we are heading for a fall, the like of which we have never seen before. Particularly in an economy so dependent on unsustainable energy consumption and exports, on the driest continent on Earth.
We know what to do – it is hard, but we need to get on with it and not waste another 10 years. As Herman Daly said many years ago: ‘the economy is a wholly – owned subsidiary of the environment, not the reverse’. No environment, no economy.
Comments
Realistic climate policy may require reviewing core assumptions
CPDS, Brisbane
Ian,
Your argument about the relationship between climate change and peak oil challenges is very logical, and I am in no position to question the solution that you propose on the basis of your assumptions. Moreover I have little doubt about the Peak Oil problem.
However, I respectfully suggest that there is a case for re-examining your other core assumption - namely the link between carbon emissions and climate change for reasons that are outlined on my web-site. See
http://cpds.apana.org.au/Teams/Articles/ClimateCha...
After assuming for 30 years that increasing carbon emissions would drive climate change, I have recently found indications [not all of which are yet referenced on my web-site] that this link is less certain than I had assumed. The indications I refer to are also compatible with ideas that I have been exposed to about climatic history for 30 years.
Furthermore there are reasons to fear that the IPCC's consensus reflects at least some institutional bias. Given the number of plausible hypotheses being put forward by technical types who seem outraged that the science has been politically declared settled - when it almost certainly isn't - it is possible, perhaps even likely, that the current consensus will be seen as overly simplistic in a couple of years time.
CPDS website = http://cpds.apana.org.au/index.html
Emissions Trading
I don't think placing a 'cost' on CO2 provides an incentive for firms to innovate. It seems a little naive. Has establishing minimum wage legislation (i.e. placing a 'cost' on labor) provided firms with the required incentive to innovate? I think, overwhelmingly the answer is no. Instead, wherever possible, production has instead been outsourced to countries that have much lower labour 'costs.'
Then there is the issue of the government being both the issuer of 'emissions rights' and regulator of emissions targets. The EU emissions trading system suffered as a result of a price collapse when it was revealed that governments had over-allocated 'rights.' The reality of government and industry collusion at the expense of the consumer seems to be glossed over by the advocates of emissions trading schemes (as though getting the regulation 'right' will dissolve a fundamental conflict of interest) - a move that seems peculiar in this day of Oil-for-Food scandals and Brian Burkes.
40% equitable is not enough for success
Dear Ian,
Thank you for explaining that you do not advocate a 100% TEQ system with dual pricing at the supermarket. This removes the pricing comparison problems because everything, except direct energy and fuel purchases, have their associated emissions costs, or TEQ purchases, included in the price.
I do not share your faith, however, that it is equitable to confiscate 60% of everybody's per capita emissions allowance, then make us pay for the same 60% of our personal entitlement as we purchase the necessities of life. The revenue raised from selling carbon allowances belongs to the population of real persons, not a corporate-state conglomerate. This 60% rip off is too high a price to pay for avoiding the complications of dual pricing at the supermarket. If we have to pay for emissions, then, as equal shareholders in the atmosphere, we must be entitled to our share of the income generated. To say that 60% of our personal entitlement should belong to the government so it can sell it back to us, is surely the worst form of regressive taxation and sets up yet another poverty trap.
Making people pay for 60% of their allowance will be inflationary because pressure for increased wages will rise as families struggle to meet the increased cost of necessities. Many will certainly not be able to afford efficient appliances and all the other measures required to reduce their personal energy consumption. Return the revenue from TEQ sales to the real owners and this wages pressure disappears. As a bonus, the "risk of a failure of collective will" is also minimised because the system will be experienced as equitable. The 40/60 system you describe is not.
The advertising blurb about "a common purpose" and "it places responsibility where it belongs, with the individual citizen" must be true in practice, or credibility will vanish. Both these aspirations are less than half truths, if less than half the carbon budget goes to real people. Let the citizens spend their carbon ration where they see fit, in a free market.
I agree that "the critical objective is to achieve the emission reductions" and that we need "to have a clear, long term, emission volume reduction budget as the driver." I would allow fluctuations above and below the defined trajectory, but the total volume of emissions over 40 years would remain fixed - as if it were our last tank of fossil fuel. Because the total volume of emissions, above the continuous sustainable level, is all that matters for climate change, it is of little consequence which week a tonne of CO2 is released. Energy demand fluctuates considerably from week to week, depending on the weather and other factors, so a fixed weekly ration is not the best model. A relatively slow moving, predictable carbon price, however, adds to credibility and reduces the "risk of a failure of collective will". The Carbon Authority will have a mandate to keep emissions on track and will be independent of political interference.
Technology does not change instantly in response to a price signal - there are long lead times involved. While we are waiting for plumbers and electricians to be trained to fit our solar water heaters and for low carbon power sources to come on line, TEQ prices could rise well above the thresholds that produced these investment decisions. An excessive price of TEQs is likely to cause unnecessary social harm. You say "fluctuations" - I say "volatility".
I want this major transition to a low carbon economy to be as smooth and risk free as possible because it must succeed.
Page 15 of your submission has some confused thinking about the implications for trade and international competition because you have accepted some illogical assumptions from the Kyoto protocol. A nation's carbon ration should apply to the citizens of that jurisdiction. The location of smokestacks ought to be irrelevant so long as the polluter's customer pays. When we import goods and services, we must accept the carbon liability for the imported products. When we export, the associated emissions become the liability of the importing jurisdiction. Such trade complications vanish when there is a global carbon price and equitable distribution of the proceeds.
I hope you will forgive the odd hint of passion. These observations are offered in the spirit of bi-partisan constructive criticism - towards the development of optimum and robust policy.
If you are curious, try this web site:
http://www.webspanish-english.com/green/
Richard
A Fatal Detour
Ian,
I do not doubt your sincerity. But this indulgence of carbon trading is the least serious approach. The European market has collapsed. It is not a simple task despite being totally non-productive.
There are at least three theories for climate change and no serious scientific evidence that humans can turn it around.
I would rather devote our energy, brains and treasury to deal with the results rather than waste them on a circuitous route which will land us back to where we are today in 15 to 20 years time.
Reduce energy usage by all means. That makes economic sense without C.C.
TEQs - a way of seeing progress
Ian,
many thanks. TEQs are a great way of seeing the change we are making, in our own lives and those of others. Where it not for the road toll, read solumnly at night on the TV news, I doubt we would have had road safety. Likewise, the picture of the ozone hole on the weather report became embedded in the public's mind as a real measure of those CHCs things no-one understood. And it eventually got smaller.
To capture the public mind and allow us all to see progress, or regress as it may be for while yet, on this daunting task we need markers, to galvanise political action, personal commitment, financial incentives, we need a tangible measure, so much better if its one we can influence ourselves. Many thanks for the thoughtful analysis. I hope Julie and others can make it happen,
michael ward
m +61 411 533 000
e2 swampgoanna@gmail.com
Emmissions Trading
Ian thank you for such sensible and thought out proposals. In the interests of simplifying the argument, could you give an every day example of how the carbon trading credit cards would work? For instance, would they be used every time we did the shopping or filled up the car? Would they become integrated into our credit cards?
Thanks again, Julie Macken
Emissions Trading - Tradeable Energy Quotas
Julie - In practice they would work just like a credit card system, but with carbon units as the currency. Every purchase you make would have an embedded carbon component, and an appropriate deduction would be made from your "carbon" account at the point of sale.
Similarily a business would have to account for the carbon content as it purchases energy, raw materials etc..
The transition to a low-carbon economy will be extremely challenging. It will only be achieved if there is joint common purpose and motivation across the nation. The beauty of the TEQ approach is that it creates that common purpose as everyone, and every organization, has an incentive to reduce emissions, and encourage others to do likewise.
The price of units is ultimately under the control of the people who use them, since the faster they are able to reduce their demand for units, the lower the price.
It also will lead to intelligent structural change, as the community demand that short-term political expediency be set aside and sensible long-term policies be implemented to achieve the national emissions budget and stave off the dangerous impact of climate change. The need for additional regulation and command and control systems is minimised.
The technology to establish a TEQ system is already in existence in the financial services and banking sectors, and it would build on much of the work already undertaken by the Australian Greenhouse Office and others in developing greenhouse gas metrics, monitoring systems etc.. Accordingly a TEQ system could be established rapidly.
Thus the process becomes a positive, collective experience for the community to restructure and rebuild the economy on sustainable principles.
TEQs place responsibility where it belongs, with the individual citizen and business. Schemes which take place in the remote bureaucratic uplands, where citizens are hectored and told what to do, or where arms are twisted by taxation, are far less likely to inspire willing and inventive cooperation!.
A parallel system could also be used to manage declining oil supply once we hit peak oil.
Regards
Ian Dunlop
TEQs
I think the beauty of the TEAs is the way it both empowers the community and gives everyone a buy-in.
It also manages to side-step party politics when it comes to the tricky question of who pays for carbon abatement. Certainly the broader community is right out in front of both political parties when it comes to wanting to make the transition to a safe low-carbon economy. But both parties are spooked by the prospect of being the one to tell consumers that prices and consumption is going to get more expensive.
The TEQs mean that people can decide for themselves how much their costs are going to rise.
Now I'm just wondering about the equity component. That is, how would this model impact across the spectrum? Would low or no income earners be more adversely affected than high income earners. At first glance I would assume the answer is no because there is less consumption, but is this correct?
TEQs
Julie - cost rises will be a function firstly of the carbon reduction task year-by-year and secondly, of our collective determination and innovative capability to meet this yearly budget.
Re equity, both rich and poor have the same personal carbon quota each year. To the extent that anyone needs more quota than allocated, they have to buy it in the market. Alternatively they can sell any quota surplus to their needs in the market. The rich can, of course, afford more than the poor, but in behavioural terms everyone is driven to reduce carbon consumption, the rich arguably more than the poor. Peer pressure re-inforces this drive, as is occassionally already happening on the back page of the SMH!.
The process will also stimulate product innovation at the individual consumer level much more so than if emissions trading was restricted to only the large stationary emitters such as power stations.
There is always the risk of a failure of collective will, where the community no longer attempt to meet the need for reducing emissions, the price of units rises to untenable levels, the government’s nerve cracks and the scheme could be abandoned. This would of course represent a regrettable departure from the national sporting ethos of Australian values!
But the same risk applies to any scheme. Arguably TEQ stands the best chance of avoiding such an outcome as it places responsibility where it belongs, with the individual citizen.
There is a fair bit more detail in my submission to the PM's Task Group on Emissions Trading at:
http://www.pmc.gov.au/emissionstrading/submissions...
Ian
Better than TEQs, better than TAX
I am very much on the same side, but there are some practical problems with TEQs - and, if you are patient, I have a constructive suggestion.
The 100% TEQ system is the most equitable but it is a nightmare at the supermarket. "no consumer purchase is excluded from the scheme." Businesses have to get TEQs from consumers the same way they get money now - through the checkout. So everything has two prices and you have to pay with both currencies and you have two budgets to balance. Very unhappy shoppers. (I did surveys.)
All accounting and budgeting, by individuals, households, businesses large and small, local, state and national governments will have to be DUPLICATED to deal with two currencies.
The government either obtains TEQs for it's own use from citizens,(some of your tax will be paid in TEQs,) or else it gives itself the first slice of the carbon budget. As the biggest GHG emitters, business and government will influence the market for TEQs far more than humble citizens.
In an attempt to reduce complexity and confusion about comparing prices with dual currencies, the Hillman - Fleming (TEQ) system, advocated by George Monbiot, allocates only 40% of the carbon budget to citizens. The idea is consumers pay TEQs only for direct purchases of fuel and energy, while businesses buy their TEQs from the government's remaining 60% at auction or "tender". The money required to buy TEQs gets added to prices. The problem is, the citizens don't get any extra ration of money so they pay for 60% of the carbon budget in prices.
The price of everything "is ultimately under the control of the community". This is especially true of commodities like natural resources with relatively inelastic supply. If the "community" refuses to buy oil, the price will drop. If we want cheaper food - stop eating. The point is that there is a dynamic balance. If one section of the community reduces its emissions to make the TEQ price lower, another section will increase their consumption until the price rises again. The behaviour of the community changes in response to the price. So to reduce emissions, the price of emissions (or TEQs) will have to rise sufficiently for targets to be met.
I believe it is clear that the carbon price will have to be high enough for the economy to find thousands of solutions and alternatives to emitting greenhouse gasses. Everybody will do it because it is relatively cheaper to reduce energy consumption and buy green energy. The one big issue is equity. Who wins and who looses? And who owns the atmosphere anyway?
Yes, everyone is entitled to an equitable ration. Yes, if you use more you have to pay. And yes, if you use less you get rewarded.
Under Ian's system, the TEQs have a monetary value. Your ration is tradable for cash and you can buy more if you can afford it. I say we don't need the TEQs - WE CAN USE CASH!
Instead of a ration of TEQs, you receive a ration of cash which is sufficient to buy your ration of emissions at the current carbon price. It compensates the average consumer for price increases due to atmospheric dumping charges (carbon taxes) paid for the burning fossil fuels.
You can use this money to keep paying for fossil energy or invest in reducing your energy bills - solar hot water, insulation, efficient lighting and appliances. Fossil energy will eventually cost the same as zero carbon, renewable energy. Over time, the carbon revenue and the dividend will reduce along with emissions. This will occur as alternative energy technologies mature and prices decline.
My version of the Emissions Policy Committee is called the Carbon Authority. It sets the carbon price in order to meet the national carbon budget. The carbon price is adjusted to compensate for past and expected errors in actual emissions. An estimated price will be published 5 years in advance so that rational investment decisions can be made by industry and consumers without waiting to see what the carbon (or TEQ) price is going to be.
The main philosophical difference between Ian and myself is that Ian wants hard short term targets with volatile prices, while I want controlled stable prices with "softer" short term targets. I want the carbon price adjusted to keep emission reductions on track, over time - like the way the Reserve Bank sets interest rates with the aim of achieving inflation targets.
For global warming, it is the total emissions over the next couple of decades that matters, not whether we are over or under this week's quota.
Carbon taxes are inequitable UNLESS all the revenue is returned to the true "owners" of the atmosphere - the people. Atmospheric dumping charges become a dividend to all, so there is no political constraint on the price per tonne or kilogram of CO2 equivalents.
Best wishes to all at CPD.
cheers,
Richard
Sustainability means eternal life - anything else is a road to death.
Better than TEQs, better than TAX
Richard
I beg to differ that TEQs would be a nightmare at the supermarket. Effectively we already do it with all manner of credit cards, loyalty cards etc. and the financial services architecture to handle that is already in existence, with a bit of tweaking!
The point of keeping carbon as a separate stream is to maintain the behavioural focus on reducing emission volumes rather than to allow that focus to dissipate by handling it all as cash.
Perhaps most importantly, it is extremely difficult, practically and politically, to set the price, particularly well in advance, and expect the emission volume reductions to follow, as the elasticity to higher prices will not be well understood at any point and the critical objective is to achieve the emission reductions.
Much better to have a clear, long term, emission volume reduction budget as the driver. We can then all get on with task of meeting it as innovatively as possible. Certainly the price will fluctuate, but that is what will bring the behavioural change rather than a Carbon Authority fiddling with prices to achieve the desired outcome. With the latter, the potential for political interference in price setting would be too great.
My concept is the Fleming model of the roughly 40/60 individual/industry split. Yes, the price of goods increases to reflect the carbon cost, and our success in reducing emissions will ameliorate that increase. I believe that will work equitably.
Finally, bear in mind that we are probably going to need a mechanism to manage oil shortages as peak oil starts to bite. TEQs can be used, as a separate stream to address that problem as well as emission reductions. There will be great benefit in having conceptually similar systems handling both issues. See my detailed submission (reference above) for more info on this.
Ian
Global Warming (Climate Change)
The problem I have with carbon trading is that the trade is convertible to dollars.
This means the rich can shift the problem to the poor.
This seems a fundamental inequity in this type of scheme (unlikely to be seen as a problem by the market fundamentalists running the eco-rat agenda).
Carbon Trading
Evan
Equal per capita quotas is arguably the fairest way of handling the equity issue.
Carbon Trading, provided there are binding emission reduction targets, will achieve the outcome we need at the lowest cost to society if the system is designed sensibly.
Ian
Carbon Trading
In 60 years I have never read such madness.
It will not reduce CO2. Why not go with a technology that will directly extract it. Is that too much like KISS.
But that is not Australia's problem. Our problem is water. Water and insulation to reduce needless energy useage.
If you want panic over something imagine the inflow of 20 million North European refugees when the Gulf Stream dies.
Carbon Trading
EarnestLee
The whole point of a trading system, provided it has binding emission reduction targets, is to guarantee the CO2 reduction. Putting a price on carbon will trigger the adoption of the best CO2 extraction technologies.
Without a market system, someone has to pick technology winners, as the government is now trying to do with nuclear and clean coal technology. There are a multitude of technologies waiting for the right carbon emission reduction targets to be set, some of which we have never thought of! In these circumstances the market, if it is designed sensibly, will sort out the best solutions far better than the government picking winners.
Energy conservation and efficiency will automatically flow from this and will provide a substantial part of the solution.
This is not about panic. The solutions are in our own hands. We must force the government into taking the problem seriously, which they have yet to do, and putting sensible policy in place rapidly.
Ian